Seeking Trinity and Finding Tauheed with References from Carm.org

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Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon the Prophet Muhammad his Noble Family and Companions
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SEEKING TRINITY AND FINDING TAUHEED

The title of this article must be the best response to the work of Missionary "Late Nabeel Qureshi" who was misled by "David Wood" whom the Christian missionaries think that the best Apostle of Christian doctrines ,of this times, yet very hesitant to debate us  or discuss with us!

The Christian scholarship in the UK engaged with me over 7 years and read and discussed the Bible with me. I sent out so many discussions and articles via Email and WhatsApp with so many questions and concerns. However either their answers were not fully engaged with the entire Questions or they did not respond at all. Some of them became very upset and frustrated with me.

So when you read the articles on this Blog, you will understand why they did not respond and why they behaved the way they did! Then you will know the Truth and Truth Shall set you free.

So before we go to the Main part of the article you should keep this words from the Bible (New Testament, Mark 13:31) in your mind all the time!

Mark 13:31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

You Should also bear in mind this Doctrinal statement from the Church!

1. God
There is one God, who exists eternally in three distinct but equal persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God is unchangeable in his holiness, justice, wisdom and love. He is the almighty Creator; Saviour and Judge who sustains and governs all things according to his sovereign will for his own glory.

So Let us begin to seek Trinity and see whether we find it or we find Tauheed!

We can use the Trinity Chart from Carm.org for References:


a) According to the  Christian scholarship Jesus Christ is called "God" in John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9.
We can understand that this verses have been taken out of the context!

Because Christ himself says, what does this statement  mean as we read in other verses in the Gospel of John!
They are:
And when I insert the words of Carm.org in correct context into this verses then you will know the Truth!

John 14:10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak  (John 1:1,14) on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me (Colossians 2:9) , who is doing his work.

Christian world agrees that Father is not the son& vice versa, so basically what they did is making Jesus in to the Father!. It is clear! As you read through!

We can also understand , God Almighty speaks through the Prophets and Saints through various ways!

As it is written:
Isaiah 42:1 "Here is My servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.

Christians believe that this Servant is Jesus Christ!. So the context is much more plain and clear now!
Peace and Blessings be upon all the Messengers and Prophets of Allah Almighty Exalted.

Is Singular God speaking about Christ? or a Tri-union God speaking about His Servant Christ? Something to Think about!

CHRISTIANS BELIEVE JESUS IS FORETOLD HERE:
Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in his mouth (John 10:35.) He will tell them everything (John 15:!5 I command him (John 5:30) ..

If this is Jesus Christ, then there cannot be  a commanding from one deity to the other person of the trinity (i.e Jesus) !. And if Jesus is this Prophet who is like Moses, then there cannot be Divinity in Jesus!. Commands invalidate the concept of co-equality

Because there is no one like God!

2 Samuel 7:22 “How great you are, O Sovereign LORD! There is no one like you. (see John 10:29, John 14:28,, John 17:3 John 20:17, 1 Timothy 1:17) We have never even heard of another God like you!

The Doctrine of Trinity advocate there are two other persons co-equal and co-eternal , in power, glory and wisdom  like the true God (John  4:23-24 ,17:3), whom they call Christ and Holy Spirit!

So we can understand that Christian Scholarship ignores the entire context and full picture of the scriptures and make trinity and deity of Christ!

b) Christian scholarship quote Acts 5:3-4 to prove Holy Spirit is God!
Anyone who read the entire context of the New Testament can understand the references were made school boy level and no spiritual insight to what they are quoting!

Acts 5: 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of the land? 4 “While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.

In the Bible it is said that God Will Send out Holy Spirit, no Prophets acknowledged anyone as God beside the LORD, God the Father!. As God Sent Holy Spirit, lying to Holy Spirit is lying to God!. In the Same way, if  the leader of a country sent his ambassador to another nation, lying to that Ambassador is lying to the leader of that country and to the whole country!. It does not mean that the leader and ambassador are equal in glory and power!

It is lying to the representative of God, in the same way, if you steal someone's money , you break God's Law. It does not mean that the guy is God from whom you stolen the money!. We need much more high level IQ people!

Obedience to the Ministry of God is Obedience to God, disobedience to the Ministry of God is Disobedience to God. This is also recorded in Islamic doctrines!.

Let us give this school boy level teachers some more example.

The pastor says: Tom, please read John chapter 17 and join me next Sunday for Worship!

Sunday Morning 11 AM in Church:
Pastor: have you read John 17
Tom: Yes, I did
Tom's son  Harry: No, Daddy did not read it!
Elder in the Church:  "You have not lied to pastor but to God.

So now, Do you think that the elder meant to say that pastor is God?
May be some school boys in the Church might think so, because they have not been grown up enough to understand what does that mean!. Because they are still in the age of believing that there is a Rabbit in the Moon!

I am looking for people with high calibre of analytical skills to come and read my blog, not those who are proud stubborn and arrogant. 

There are too many things to go through, due to limited times, please read this previous article:


c) Jesus the All knowing? Christian scholarship quotes John 16:30 and John 21:17

We can easily spot that this verses are quoted out of the context! I am going to highlight places they ignored!

John 16:30 Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God."

Christian scholarship blatantly ignored the last part and makes a very foolish claim with the first part of the verse.
Anyone with high level analytical skills can easily perceive that , those who are saying this words to Christ was not meaning that He knows all things like God!. So they said, they believe he came from God. They dd not say, this make us believe that you are God, and read rest of the verses that came after this one! Come on missionaries ,please do not bring this outdated references and interpretation. The world is very close to the age of Truth!

Second verse the Missionary quoted:
John 21:17 The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my sheep.

Jesus Christ himself refute this kind of referencing in John 15:15

John 15:15 I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

From Mark 13:32 we can further understand that neither Jesus nor they did not believe that Jesus Christ knows everything!

Mark 13:32 “However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven nor the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

So are the missionaries saying that "Jesus knows everything and knowing everything make him Deity?. In that case disciples also know everything Jesus Christ knew (peace be upon him )

All this verses prove the  God is Singular/ Tauheed/One God and One deity!, not One God and Three Deities!

d) Christian scholarship quote Micah 5:1-2 to prove Jesus is Eternal like God the Father!

As I already proved , this is also taken out of the context!. Christians believe Jesus died on the Cross, is enough to understand the misquoting of Micah 5:1-2

Secondly, Christ also says to his followers that they shall not taste death!

Matthew 16:28 Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
John 8:51 Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death."

e) There is no One Good Like God!

Mark 10:18 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.

f) God Will not give his glory to another (Isaiah 42:8, 48:11) !, But Jesus gave his glory to his disciples!

John 17:22 NASB "The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;
The Oneness Jesus have with God the Father (John 10:30 I and Father are one") were also misquoted by Missionaries!. John 17:22 gives us true message that, the Oneness is Spiritual Unity and not Personality!

g) Unchangeable wisdom and Power


Christ and everyone else did not know the Hour (Mark 13:32) and He was under the power of God (John 5:30) not co-equal in the power of God! Also see 

Hebrews 5:7 While Jesus was here on earth, he offered prayers and pleadings, with a loud cry and tears, to the one who could rescue him from death. And God heard his prayers because of his deep reverence for God.

h) The Only True God God the Father (John 17:3) and true Worshippers (John 4:23-24)
John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

John 4:23 But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.

i) Jesus Christ was not worshipped as the  deity!
In the three years mission of Christ and beyond in the ministry of apostles which lasted over 50 years, Jesus Christ was not worshipped as deity!. Please refer to our previous article for further references.

The only seven worship of Christ was not Deity worship!, but reverences given to High priests and Prophets, for example:

Daniel (King James Bible) 2:46 Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face, and worshipped Daniel, and commanded that they should offer an oblation and sweet odours unto him.

Christ did not receive worship equal to the one Daniel Prophet received or even higher than this! . It was more simple reverences.  Christians believe that the deity of Jesus was not revealed until the resurrection of Christ! So it is again another foolishness to quoted the verses in the Bible to claim the worships Jesus received were deity worship!. There is no worship of Christ in the ministry of Apostles! Jesus is called "High Priest, Servant of God and Apostle in all the new testament books!

He is called God/Lord in the context of Psalm 82:6-7 as Christ himself says  in John 10:34-37 

What we see is that, Christians embraced Jewish false accusation and made Jesus into God Incarnate!
It was Jews who said first, Jesus claimed he is God!, however Jesus Christ reject this accusations of Jews and answers them in John  8 and John 10!  Today we Muslims too give the same answers to the Christians who say "Jesus is the Almighty God"!

All believers are One Body, but members of that body are of different ranks and powers and attributes!, No one is co-equal. This is the same view in Islamic traditions as well.

j) Holy Spirit is not God, Holy Spirit fear the True God!

Isaiah 11:2 And the Spirit of the LORD will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.
If Holy Spirit Fear the LORD and If Jesus calls the LORD "My God" (John 20:17) who is greater than him (John 14:28) and greater than all (John 10:29) then where is the Trinity? If Jesus says Only True God is God the Father (John 17:3) and True Worshippers are those who worship God the Father (John 4:23) and vain worshippers worship Jesus and other false deities (Mark 7:7-9) through believing in human traditions (which is not taught by Messiah/Prophets or Disciples of Christ), then how can you convince me that Christianity is the true path? And how can I knowingly embrace a religion when it clearly contradict the sound teachings of Messiah and the Prophets? If you can convince me then refute this article!

Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) also confirm that, his light will decline over the time (John 12:35) and Darkness will enter into this world!. This prove that He is not God, Because God's Light never perish and it shone forth from Mount Paran through  the House of Kedar , ie Islam (Deuteronomy 33:2, Isaiah 42:11-17) with a New law (Isaiah 42:4), until the emergence of the Last Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)  the time were known as "Dark Age".

So we can understand that Christian doctrines are not derived from the Bible. But it is written outside of the Bible and then picked verses from the Bible from here and there out of the context to claim legitimacy for that doctrines!. The latest of such activity is Jehova's Witness belief that Jesus is Angel Michael!

I pray that May Allah Almighty Exalted guide our Christian brothers and sisters and guide them to Islam and Truth Aameen. I hope this article will serve as a stepping stone for those who seek truth and study with an open mind!

Peace be upon the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Praise be to Allah the LORD of all Creations!

(c) Outreachislam.org
25 December 2019


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